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THOMPSON AND OBAMA FACE OFF OVER IRAQ

ASSESSMENTS AT VFW CONVENTION -- Two men

with White House aspirations offered starkly different

assessments of the war in Iraq before the national

convention of the Veterans of Foreign Wars.

 

 

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Thompson and Obama face off over Iraq assessments at VFW convention

By John McCormick
Tribune staff reporter



KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Two men with White House aspirations offered starkly different assessments of the war in Iraq today before a national convention of military veterans.

"Some people in this country apparently think that if we can pull out of Iraq, our problems are going to be over," said former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson, who is expected to announce his Republican presidential bid early next month.

"You and I know better than that," he continued. "We know that Iraq is an important front in this war. But we also know that if we appear to be divided and weak in this nation, that it is going to ennoble an enemy."

Thompson's appearance addressing several thousand members of the Veterans of Foreign Wars came before one by Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois, who renewed his call for the removal of American military forces from Iraq.

"No matter how brilliantly and bravely our troops and their commanders perform … they cannot and should not bear the responsibility of resolving grievances at the heart of Iraq's civil war," Obama said to tepid applause. "No military surge, no matter how brilliantly performed, can succeed without political reconciliation and a surge of diplomacy in Iraq and the region."

Later, the Illinois Democrat told reporters the military surge backed by the White House cannot work without successful negotiations on the part of Iraq's feuding factions.

"What I have been clear about, even before the surge started, was that if we put [an] additional 20,000 or 30,000 American troops in Baghdad, then it's going to have an impact, because they are doing an outstanding job in carrying out their military operations," he said. "The question has always been: what then? Do we actually have a mechanism to trigger the kind of negotiations … that can stabilize the country over the long-term? And on that front, we have seen complete failure."

Arguing that America's forces are stretched thin, Obama called for an additional 65,000 soldiers and 27,000 Marines to the size of the U.S. armed forces to "relieve the strain on our ground forces."

A member of the Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs, Obama received stronger applause as he called for improved services for America's veterans. "We also need to provide more services to our military families because they go into battle whenever their loved ones go into battle," he said.

Thompson, meanwhile, said the nation needs a more frank conversation on the amount of resources and unity it will take to defeat global terrorism.

"I'm concerned about my country," Thompson said. "If we don't take the right path, we are going wind up with a weaker, less prosperous and more divided country than when we came into it."

Both men were welcomed respectfully and received standing ovations from an audience that included veterans from every U.S. war since World War II.

Thompson, who plays a character on television's "Law & Order," joked that he left the Senate because he "longed for the realism and sincerity of Hollywood."

After his speech, Thompson said he feels no rush to formally enter the presidential race. "We've got plenty of time to get our message out," he said.

Earlier today, Obama announced a well-timed endorsement from Rep. Patrick Murphy of Pennsylvania, the only member of Congress who served in combat in the current war in Iraq.

Solidifying his armed-forces credentials is important for Obama, who has had a couple missteps with military jargon in recent months.

In May, his campaign sent out a news release that spelled "flak" as "flack," when referring to a flak jacket. Although some dictionaries say both spellings are acceptable, the campaign of GOP Sen. John McCain of Arizona pounced on the typo to suggest Obama lacks military experience.

And last week at the Iowa State Fair, Obama asked two soldiers what "squad" they belonged to, rather than asking for their "unit." The question might be seen by some as the military equivalent of asking someone for their home's street number, but not the street or city where they live.

On Monday, the VFW convention heard from two other presidential candidates: McCain and Democratic Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York.

The VFW invited the two top candidates from each party, based on polling. When Republicans Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney were not able to attend, the group turned to McCain and Thompson.

McCain and Clinton also presented vastly different approaches on Iraq.

"The best way of honoring their service is by beginning to bring them home," said Clinton, who also received respectful applause.

Clinton said parts of the surge strategy are "working," a notion McCain and the VFW support.

"Our defeat in Iraq would be a catastrophe not for Iraq, but for the United States," McCain said. "And I cannot be complicit in it."

That four candidates took the time to visit the VFW convention is no surprise, since veterans and their families are a large and important constituency.

The VFW said polling from the 2004 presidential election showed veterans break slightly more Republican than Democrat, 47 percent to 42 percent. It also said roughly 90 percent of veterans vote in presidential elections, a proportion significantly higher than average.

Still, the VFW's political leanings do tend to be more conservative. In a 2006 congressional race in west-suburban Chicago, for example, its political committee endorsed Republican Peter Roskam over Democrat Tammy Duckworth, a VFW member who lost both legs in the Iraq War.

The VFW's political arm is not expected to endorse a presidential candidate. President Bush, meanwhile, is scheduled to address the convention Wednesday.



mccormickj@tribune.com

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